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Old 07-10-2009, 09:20 PM   #1

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Baby Steps

OK....I am about to embark on my trading journey, and like all unknowns, it is scary.
When I was a baby, I crawled first, then took some unsteady steps, then walked unaided, then learnt to talk via the ABC
This is what I am going to do here.....same mentality....LEARN my trading ABC, BUT there are literally hundreds, thousands of books that "claim" to do, just that.
They CAN¨T ALL be right.........so which 5 books, would you experts recommend?
I have seen the post by Thales....but want comparison opinions from others.
Please feel free to mention other learning "tools" too.

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Re: Baby Steps

I have just one, that I like to recommend, old but a must read, IMO

Reminiscences of a Stock Operator
by Edwin Lefèvre
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Re: Baby Steps

Stan Weinstein's Secrets For Profiting in Bull and Bear Markets by Stan Weinstein
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Re: Baby Steps

Thanks guys.....but any more?
Other tools ?
Websites?
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Re: Baby Steps

Whatever books I might recommend, if any, would depend on where you are and what you want. If you know absolutely nothing about trading or the markets and have absolutely no idea what you want from trading, I would not recommend Reminiscences nor Weinstein nor O'Neil. They are well beyond where you are. If you have some knowledge of and appreciation of how the markets work and what trading involves and what you want from the markets and how you plan to go about getting it, that's a different matter.

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Re: Baby Steps

Here are the five that had the most impact on the way I trade today:

The Richard D. Wyckoff Method of Trading and Investing in Stocks. This is incredibly difficult to find, so if you cannot, read Studies in Tape Reading by Richard Wyckoff, along with the available material in the Wyckoff Forum. (Inexpensive, or free)
Wyckoff lays a strong foundation for an understanding of market action, supply and demand, and support and resistance.

My Feeble Attempt to Understand the Market by Dbphoenix. ($30, and is worth quite more)
Dbphoenix, well known here, relays much of his market wisdom and approach. This book is non-linear, and is comprised of sections dealing with different aspects of market analysis.

Phantom of the Pits by Art Simpson (Free)
The Phantom, an anonymous successful pit trader, and Art Simpson converse about the Phantom's rules in trading. These rules build the foundation to solid trade management.

When to Sell by Justin Mamis (~$20)
Mamis details his method for managing risk and protecting against losses. His texts are slower reads, and full of trading gems. For a most philosophical continuation on risk, pick up The Nature of Risk as well.

Zen and the Art of Poker by Larry Phillips (~$6 used)
Phillips focuses on the inner game of Poker, which applies directly to the inner game of trading. Before you can master the markets, you must master yourself. This isn't a book on poker rules or style, but rather about risk management.


Note that none of these hold any secret keys to the markets. None contain secret setups that can be effortlessly and easily traded. However, the knowledge inside was absolutely invaluable to my own trading success.
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Re: Baby Steps

I would recommend the following post by Db: http://www.traderslaboratory.com/for...html#post67331 If I were starting out at this game, I'd print that post out, put it in the front of a three ring binder, and make it part of my daily prep.

Unlike Db, however, I do not think one needs to put in a certain amount time or study before reading Reminiscences or O'Neil's How to Make Money in Stocks. In my opinion, what one is able to take from either of these books has more to do with his or her intelligence and emotional maturity than one's level of market experience.

However, I always recommend that the would-be trader, seduced by visions of sugarplums and wealth dancing about his or her head, first read Nicolas Darvas's How I MAde 2,000,000 in the Stock Market. It is an excellent story that covers Darvas's journey through the stages of development outlined in DB's excellent above referenced post. O'Neil has admitted to various inteviewers that it was Darvas's book that inspired his trading and the formulation of his famous CANSLIM approach. Many "serious" traders found in internet forums ridicule Darvas's book. They would be surprised to learn how many actual traders keep dog-eared and tattered copies of Darvas not in, but on thier desks.

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Re: Baby Steps

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Originally Posted by DbPhoenix »
They are well beyond where you are.
I disagree with that statement.


Let me explain, I think that even if a reader might not know all terms used in these books, they are the better start. A reader can learn the terms and what they mean with a small additional effort.

But, if you read the mainstream food (i.e. xxx for dummies, etc. ), you may discover after some years,
that you would have saved plenty of time and money, if you just would have known ...


Well, Reminiscences, is the foundation (still IMO) .

It shows also the ups and downs in life, as well as the strategies of a trader (i.e. Livermore).

Livermore, might not have had the choice of tons of books like we have today. But he was clever, he used common sense, and this book about
him contains so much basic rules (not to say wisdom),
everyone talks about today, not knowing where it comes from.

A must read for everyone.

Hal


P.S.: I like Darvas too.

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