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Old 07-15-2008, 08:17 AM   #25

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Re: I Look Back Now and Wonder

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By job, I meant as a trader

But I know what you mean, because I'm in that exact situation right now
I'll give you an oar brother- and we can row the boat together!
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Well, this is the real wonder here. Unlike medical or law school, you know when you will graduate in certain amount of years. The real wonder in trading is that you don't know when you will graduate. My question to all of you is how do you keep the faith and keep on running when you don't know how far you are from the finish line ?
I feel what may be most important, besides the belief that you were borned to do this, is to be inspired by a higher power. Men through out history have accomplished extroadinary feat of achievement because they had believed that this was their calling.
How do you keep the faith when you don't know how far the finish line is ? Well you must enjoy the process, which means continual of study and research and practice on your demo account in your spare time even though you have just blown your live account . If you don't enjoy the process ? Then perhaps trading is not for you.
If you truly enjoy the process and you know in your heart that this is your true calling, then you shouldn't have to ask yourself if you would do it all over again. Right ?

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What's your plan when those thins happens ?

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Great post.

I think it's important new traders (and old traders) realise how much there is to do for point #4.

Do you have an plan for when your trading software goes down?
What about when the exchange goes down?
Do you know how to hedge your trading instrument/size and do you have the excess capital available to?
Do you have another brokerage account if you can't access your current one?
PC Crash?
Internet Crash?
Your local phone exchange crash? (Yes, I actually have had that happen, and yes I was in a position.)
Power outage?
Godzilla?

You get the drift.
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What's your plan when those thins happens ?
Do you have a plan for when your trading software goes down?
I have subscriptions to CQG, Esignal & Ensign Software.
What about when the exchange goes down?
I have accounts with different brokers & clearing firms to be able to hedge any open positions in a correlated market on a different exchange. I.e. CME, EUREX, SGX, etc.
Do you know how to hedge your trading instrument/size and do you have the excess capital available to?

I know the equity / ratio requirement to hedge positions in the markets I trade.
Do you have another brokerage account if you can't access your current one?
I hold accounts with Infinity Futures, Interactive Brokers, MFGlobal.
PC Crash?
I have two desktops & a laptop.
Internet Crash?
I know how to access my brokers via telephone and what to say.
Your local phone exchange crash? (Yes, I actually have had that happen, and yes I was in a position.)
Again, I know how to access my brokers via telephone (Mobile) and what to say.
Power outage?
Same again, Mobile phone access.
Godzilla?
This one.. I'm still working on.
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Re: I Look Back Now and Wonder

Bootstrap,

you mention that you turned profitable during 1999. Not to challange your methods but wasn't everything in 1999 going up. Did you same insights and techniques work during late 2000 through 2002? I've been trading or over 10 years and have had great years and bad years. This last month caught me by surprise and turned all my profits into losses. I'm finding it hard to walk the line between trading and investing. Fortunately I started moving more towards cash a couple months ago which protected me a lot from the recent sell off. Best or luck and thank for sharing.

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Re: I Look Back Now and Wonder

Yes pretty much everything was going up.

In 1999, I was and still am trading currency futures exclusively. I have not had a losing month since. Yes, I still have down days and even weeks on occasion.

It is not the method. It's the trader that makes the difference.

As for long term investments, yes this portion will show a loss. But the strategt is designed to take advantage of falling markets.

The hardest investment rule is:

If 95% of traders/investors lose money, then do exactly the opposite of what they are doing when they are losing.
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great post - quite helpful thanks
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Re: I Look Back Now and Wonder

Thanks Null,

I've actually started buying up some speculative stuff lately. It's Probably a little premature to start buying already but I like the odds. It's likely that we are far from seeing the worst yet though. The market is going to a roller coaster for for quite awhile.

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