Welcome to the Traders Laboratory Forums.
Beginners Forum Interested in trading but don't know where to start? Post any questions you may have here.

Reply
Old 12-08-2007, 03:01 PM   #1

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 21
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Hi,

I am a second year british univ. undergrad economist.

I entered for a stock investment challenge, available to all UK undergrads, starting from January, lasting 2months.

its an online base, FTSE100, FTSE 250 and bonds, no day trading, short selling allowed.

Its in 2 phase, 1st round is to come in top 20, and complete a report.

Financial reward is so big I feel a desperate need to learn dealing in stocks. Is there anyway to learn this quickly.

To brief about my background - I did compete in several online investment challenges hosted by major banks from which I came top 10 out of more than 1000 students from Europe (the best result was 59% return in a month). But only trouble is, I made the profit from dealing in commodities. Some basic economic knowledge and responding to publicly available information was enough to do well.

As this is stock based, I am panicking.

I want to stay away from in-depth technical analysis (which I have no knowledge of) and concentrate on value investing.

Perhaps identify the mostly undervalued( and heavily beaten) stocks from credit crisis and select the ones that will bouce back in 2months time.

Any advice on my approach, and how I can learn this ?? !!!!!! especially with regards to writing a successful report ?


Thanks,
illumintai is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2007, 04:13 PM   #2
OAC

OAC's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: manila
Posts: 524
Ignore this user

Thanks: 25
Thanked 63 Times in 52 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Try the dartboard approach, it is known to beat most systems.
OAC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2007, 04:23 PM   #3

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 21
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Ah, I heard of that.

Editor of Wall street journal, literally created a dartboard of stocks and created a diversified portolio that was randomly selected from where the dart landed.

Last year's winner yielded 20% return. Can I do that in less than 2months using this approach ?
illumintai is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2007, 04:45 PM   #4
OAC

OAC's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: manila
Posts: 524
Ignore this user

Thanks: 25
Thanked 63 Times in 52 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Value investing has no merit in a two months timeframe. You have to pay attention to sector rotation. Sectors, in case you don't know are industrial groups. You want to find the strongest stocks in sectors that are in a cyclical upturn. You can pick these stocks and then let me screen them for their technical merits based on charts. The only problem is I don't know if I can get historical data for FTSE-100 stocks to run in my software. I have to look into it.
OAC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2007, 05:00 PM   #5

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 21
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

thank you !

Well, first off, where do i get the historical data for UK sectors ?

I guess you are saying i should invest some time in understanding technical analysis. Any suggestions on where I should start ? I have about 2 weeks !
illumintai is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2007, 05:25 PM   #6
OAC

OAC's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: manila
Posts: 524
Ignore this user

Thanks: 25
Thanked 63 Times in 52 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Quote:
Originally Posted by illumintai »
thank you !

Well, first off, where do i get the historical data for UK sectors ?

I guess you are saying i should invest some time in understanding technical analysis. Any suggestions on where I should start ? I have about 2 weeks !
I don't know where to get data for UK sectors, may be some of our UK members or other members who trade the FTSE can help you.
Technical analysis can't be learned and be effective in 2 weeks, in my opinion.

Another suggestion that might work for you is to concentrate on a handful of stocks that are strongly affected by various commodity prices. Use your background of pick commodities to give you an edge. For instance if you think oil is going higher, you buy oil companies. I don't know if this is against the rule.
OAC is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2007, 08:33 AM   #7

aiki14's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philly Burbs
Posts: 77
Ignore this user

Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts

Re: Stock trading competition - 1 month to learn

Quote:
Originally Posted by illumintai »
Financial reward is so big I feel a desperate need to learn dealing in stocks. Is there anyway to learn this quickly.
Thanks,
Frankly, No, I don't think there is a way to learn this quickly. You may get lucky, so give it your best effort, but learning this stuff is a long process.
Good Luck
__________________
Mistrust those in whom the urge to punish is strong.
--Friedrich Nietzsche
aiki14 is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Help Others By Rating This Thread
Help Others By Rating This Thread:


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who should i go with for stock trades bkny1055 Beginners Forum 9 06-24-2008 12:24 PM
How much does you "trading rig" cost each month? Reaver Beginners Forum 13 07-31-2007 06:34 PM
Further Out Months From Spot Month The Bear Futures Trading Laboratory 1 04-26-2007 06:56 PM
TL getting more popular each month! brownsfan019 Support Center 26 04-01-2007 11:17 PM
What You Can Learn From The Opening Minutes Of Trading MrPaul Market Analysis 2 12-05-2006 05:49 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:45 PM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CS to VB integration by DeskLancer
©2006-2011 Traders Laboratory, All Rights Reserved.