Welcome to the Traders Laboratory Forums.
Automated Trading Black box systems, strategy automation, algorithmic trading, etc...

Reply
Old 06-09-2010, 06:10 PM   #1

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 18
Ignore this user

Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

IB Paper Trading

I've developed an algorithm that I've been testing with IB's demo account. I've done absolutely everything I can with the demo account, but I've come to realize that the simulated data is not very realistic at all. I need to start testing my algorithm with real data. However, the only way to get a paper trading account is to open a real account. Since I don't have $10,000 to open a real account (and I won't for a while), I seem to be a bit stuck. My plan is to have the algorithm tested and ready to go by the time I have the $10,000 saved up to open an account.

In the meantime, does anyone know how I could get access to a paper trading account without opening a real account? I know they allow students to get accounts. Is there a legitimate online trading school that doesn't cost too much that would be able to register an account for me?
daveyjones is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 07:14 PM   #2

BlowFish's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: In Da House
Posts: 3,292
Ignore this user

Thanks: 129
Thanked 1,054 Times in 702 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

What does your algorithm trade? Amp & Mirus offer demo accounts for futures that would probably fit the bill. Do you execute your algorithm manually?
BlowFish is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 07:48 PM   #3

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 18
Ignore this user

Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

Just stocks for now. The problem is that the algorithm is completely automated and set up to work with IB. I haven't found a broker that offers an API that competes with IB. (If there are legitimate competitors, please enlighten me!)
daveyjones is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 08:30 PM   #4

Tams's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Geelong
Posts: 3,779
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2,084
Thanked 1,474 Times in 912 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

what's wrong with IB's demo data?
__________________



Only an idiot would reply to a stupid post
Tams is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 09:16 PM   #5

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 18
Ignore this user

Thanks: 9
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tams »
what's wrong with IB's demo data?
At first I thought it was real historical data, but that's not the case. The volatility of some of the securities is through the roof - sometimes a standard deviation of several dollars in a single day. When you review the actual history of the same security, you will find no such fluctuation.
daveyjones is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 09:25 PM   #6

Tams's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Geelong
Posts: 3,779
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2,084
Thanked 1,474 Times in 912 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

The demo data is real,
it is a replay of old data.
However they don't tell you which date/time they are playing.
__________________



Only an idiot would reply to a stupid post
Tams is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 09:28 PM   #7

Tams's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Geelong
Posts: 3,779
Ignore this user

Thanks: 2,084
Thanked 1,474 Times in 912 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

you can always open a real account with IB,
then you get to access the papertrading account.

The papertrading account streams real time data,
the same data as in your real trading account.

I believe you only need $3,500 to open an account,
plus a minimal data fee if your commission do not reach a minimum amount.
__________________



Only an idiot would reply to a stupid post
Tams is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2010, 02:16 AM   #8

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Globex
Posts: 18
Ignore this user

Thanks: 280
Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts

Re: IB Paper Trading

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tams »
you can always open a real account with IB,
then you get to access the papertrading account.

The papertrading account streams real time data,
the same data as in your real trading account.

I believe you only need $3,500 to open an account,
plus a minimal data fee if your commission do not reach a minimum amount.
Unless you're under 21 or live in India or it's an IRA or advisor/broker account, the minimum deposit is $10K.

Best wishes,
TB
TrueBalance is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Help Others By Rating This Thread
Help Others By Rating This Thread:


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trading Firms Put Their Money on Poker Experts macdfx Trading and the Markets 10 11-16-2010 12:17 AM
Simple Forex Trading Strategies - The Key To Profitable Trading Nial Fuller Trading 3 10-26-2010 12:12 AM
Quotes from 100% Automated Independent Retail Trader AgeKay Automated Trading 28 07-06-2010 08:34 AM
Different Data Feeds from Your Charting Platform Vs. Trading DOM marker Brokers and Data Feeds 7 07-04-2010 11:58 AM
Auto Trading with MultiCharts on Forex Market Yakalfer Automated Trading 3 05-30-2010 09:22 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:30 PM.
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CS to VB integration by DeskLancer
©2006-2011 Traders Laboratory, All Rights Reserved.