[tradestef]

I am trying to find Clayburg's Cluster System. Does anyone know where I can find it?

[windsurfer]

I don't think Cluster is as good as Universal. btw, I suggest that you have to adjust the Clayburg Universal results on the videos because his numbers are without slippage and commission. He justifies the no slippage because he says they are limit orders- but in the real world some of these won't get filled. I suggest $30 per RT. He trades about 700 contracts on the videos spreadsheet a day- so I believe he needs to make $21,000 per day to break even. I assume others will disagree....

[daedalus]

I agree commission and slippage should be accounted for but 30/rt is pretty high wouldn't you say?

I brought up the 700 contract thing in another thread here and some one who was in with him as a memeber said he doesn't trade everything and only trades a few contracts each day but merely tracks everything in his videos...

[windsurfer]

I think $25 - $30 is right when I compare my actual trades to my backtested results.

[swansjr]

Originally Posted by daedalus »

I agree commission and slippage should be accounted for but 30/rt is pretty high wouldn't you say?

I brought up the 700 contract thing in another thread here and some one who was in with him as a memeber said he doesn't trade everything and only trades a few contracts each day but merely tracks everything in his videos...

I'm a member to his forums and he does NOT trade all those charts. He has hinted he only trades a few charts every day.

[Marc33139]

I was a member of his forum since it first opened, until very recently.

The reason I terminated my membership was that several of my responses to posted questions in the forum were being deleted by him. I had pointed out various discrepancies in his nightly videos, together with information regarding IBOG and how turning it off was more accurate but didn't produce nice looking equity curves. On several occasions I also mentioned the slippage and commission being omitted too.

I believe I contribute much to users of that forum, yet it appears HE is interested only in selling system. He would not allow my comments to be visible.

Marc

[RM686]

Does anyone know of a basic system that is any good? All these systems coast a lot of money and I dont hear of antone making money swing trading stocks or ETFS.

[windsurfer]

I watched one of JC's daily updates recently and see he has added "multisystems"- a Universal Multisystem and a Value Chart Multisystem. They each trade about 200 contracts a day, so the slippage and commissions would be significant. Even so, it looked as if the Value Chart was profitable.

Can anyone comment on their impressions?