Does Weed Smoking Decrease Performance

[cooter]

	Quote:	The Bear
	You guys are hilarious. Lately i've been feeling pretty f-in good - i've been dabbling in Crystal Meth - pretty good stuff :no: Next.................spec ial k.

Figures...

[darthtrader]

haha, interesting thread....
I think there is a guy on elitetrader, "stonedtrader" that claims to trade stoned.
I have'nt smoked pot in 10 years but I remember my best online chess games were after I smoked back then. The whole pattern of the way the board was developing just seemed to be in slow motion and the moves were obvious. Maybe i'll do an experiment 10 years from now when I'm a good trader with money to burn in a small account.
I doubt that would work though, if anything I would think you would end up over trading.

[Reaver]

	Quote:	The Bear
	Hey doc, do you think weed smoking outside of market hours is no good for my speculation activities? I take long breaks (weeks at a time) and I never do it during open hours :p

Are you in combat or daytrading? If no, then are you under the influence when you make any decisions? If no, then I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't do it, but it's not that big of a deal. No worse than drinking as far as performance goes, IMO.

[Reaver]

	Quote:	darthtradar
	haha, interesting thread.... I think there is a guy on elitetrader, "stonedtrader" that claims to trade stoned. I have'nt smoked pot in 10 years but I remember my best online chess games were after I smoked back then. The whole pattern of the way the board was developing just seemed to be in slow motion and the moves were obvious. Maybe i'll do an experiment 10 years from now when I'm a good trader with money to burn in a small account. I doubt that would work though, if anything I would think you would end up over trading.

heh heh, now there's an idea....

You could be the Timothy Leary of trading!

[thetradingdoctor]

Results Of A Comprehensive Study of Cannabis Use and Psychosis in Later Life

August 1, 2007 � A systematic review of longitudinal studies suggests there is sufficient new evidence that the use of cannabis (marijuana) increases the risk for later psychotic illness by roughly 40%. The study showed a trend towards an increased risk for depression in people who had used cannabis, but the evidence was not as strong.

The article by Theresa H.M. Moore, MSc, from the University of Bristol in the United Kingdom, and colleagues is published in the July 28 issue of The Lancet.

Study author Stanley Zammit, PhD, from Cardiff University in Wales, told Medscape that individuals who used cannabis on a weekly or daily basis had about a 2- to 3-fold increase in risk for psychotic outcomes, independent of transient intoxication or other confounding factors. He added, "We looked at the quality of the studies quite rigorously and feel the evidence is strong enough to warrant advising everyone, particularly young people, that the use of cannabis does potentially have some health risks, especially if they are using it on a regular basis."

Cannabis is the most commonly used illegal substance in most countries, the authors write, adding that in the United Kingdom and New Zealand, about 1 in 5 young people report using cannabis weekly or having used it more than 100 times. Previous studies have suggested that cannabis use can produce transient, usually mild, psychotic and affective experiences, but whether it increases the incidence of mental health outcomes such as schizophrenia or depression is unclear.

The group searched for population-based longitudinal studies that looked at the relationship between cannabis use and subsequent psychotic and affective outcomes. They found 11 studies from 7 cohorts that looked at psychotic outcomes and 24 studies from 15 cohorts that looked at affective outcomes.

Increased Risk, Dose-Response Effect
The researchers found a consistent increased risk for psychotic outcomes in the people who had ever used cannabis (adjusted odds ratio [OR], 1.41; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.20 - 1.65), with a greater risk in individuals who had used it most frequently (OR, 2.09; 95% CI, 1.54 - 2.84).

Most studies excluded people with psychosis at baseline, so this association between cannabis use and psychosis is unlikely to result from reverse causation, the group writes. The studies also adjusted for about 60 confounding factors. "People who use cannabis might be different from other people in a number of factors and some of those might increase their risk of mental health disease, but even once we had adjusted for these factors, there was still an association," Dr. Zammit said.

The evidence that cannabis use leads to depression, suicidal thoughts, and anxiety outcomes was less consistent. "Overall, the quality of the studies wasn't as robust as the studies for psychosis," said Dr. Zammit, adding that for example, many of the studies did not try to adjust for confounding factors.

Although an individual's lifetime risk of developing a serious psychotic illness is only about 2% or 3%, he added, cannabis can be expected to have a large impact at a population level because exposure to this drug is so common.

"The overall message is that people who use cannabis on a regular basis need to be aware of this risk, so they can make an informed judgement about whether they want to continue using it, or perhaps try to cut down their use," or seek treatment of dependency, he concluded.

Merete Nordentoft, MD, and Carsten Hjorthøj, from Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark, write that the study is the most comprehensive meta-analysis to date of this possible causal relationship and the adjustment for confounding factors and transient effects "is done more thoroughly than in previous reviews." They report, "We therefore agree with the authors' conclusion that there is sufficient evidence to warn young people that cannabis use will increase the risk of psychosis later in life."The general public has considered cannabis to be relatively harmless in comparison with alcohol and opioids, they note, cautioning that, "however, the potential long-term hazardous effects of cannabis with regard to psychosis seem to have been overlooked, and there is a need to warn the public of these dangers, as well as to establish treatment to help young frequent cannabis users.
Thanks!

Doctor Janice

[The Bear]

	Quote:	thetradingdoctor
	Results Of A Comprehensive Study of Cannabis Use and Psychosis in Later Life August 1, 2007 � A systematic review of longitudinal studies suggests there is sufficient new evidence that the use of cannabis (marijuana) increases the risk for later psychotic illness by roughly 40%. The study showed a trend towards an increased risk for depression in people who had used cannabis, but the evidence was not as strong. The article by Theresa H.M. Moore, MSc, from the University of Bristol in the United Kingdom, and colleagues is published in the July 28 issue of The Lancet. Study author Stanley Zammit, PhD, from Cardiff University in Wales, told Medscape that individuals who used cannabis on a weekly or daily basis had about a 2- to 3-fold increase in risk for psychotic outcomes, independent of transient intoxication or other confounding factors. He added, "We looked at the quality of the studies quite rigorously and feel the evidence is strong enough to warrant advising everyone, particularly young people, that the use of cannabis does potentially have some health risks, especially if they are using it on a regular basis." Cannabis is the most commonly used illegal substance in most countries, the authors write, adding that in the United Kingdom and New Zealand, about 1 in 5 young people report using cannabis weekly or having used it more than 100 times. Previous studies have suggested that cannabis use can produce transient, usually mild, psychotic and affective experiences, but whether it increases the incidence of mental health outcomes such as schizophrenia or depression is unclear. The group searched for population-based longitudinal studies that looked at the relationship between cannabis use and subsequent psychotic and affective outcomes. They found 11 studies from 7 cohorts that looked at psychotic outcomes and 24 studies from 15 cohorts that looked at affective outcomes. Increased Risk, Dose-Response Effect The researchers found a consistent increased risk for psychotic outcomes in the people who had ever used cannabis (adjusted odds ratio [OR], 1.41; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.20 - 1.65), with a greater risk in individuals who had used it most frequently (OR, 2.09; 95% CI, 1.54 - 2.84). Most studies excluded people with psychosis at baseline, so this association between cannabis use and psychosis is unlikely to result from reverse causation, the group writes. The studies also adjusted for about 60 confounding factors. "People who use cannabis might be different from other people in a number of factors and some of those might increase their risk of mental health disease, but even once we had adjusted for these factors, there was still an association," Dr. Zammit said. The evidence that cannabis use leads to depression, suicidal thoughts, and anxiety outcomes was less consistent. "Overall, the quality of the studies wasn't as robust as the studies for psychosis," said Dr. Zammit, adding that for example, many of the studies did not try to adjust for confounding factors. Although an individual's lifetime risk of developing a serious psychotic illness is only about 2% or 3%, he added, cannabis can be expected to have a large impact at a population level because exposure to this drug is so common. "The overall message is that people who use cannabis on a regular basis need to be aware of this risk, so they can make an informed judgement about whether they want to continue using it, or perhaps try to cut down their use," or seek treatment of dependency, he concluded. Merete Nordentoft, MD, and Carsten Hjorthøj, from Copenhagen University Hospital in Denmark, write that the study is the most comprehensive meta-analysis to date of this possible causal relationship and the adjustment for confounding factors and transient effects "is done more thoroughly than in previous reviews." They report, "We therefore agree with the authors' conclusion that there is sufficient evidence to warn young people that cannabis use will increase the risk of psychosis later in life."The general public has considered cannabis to be relatively harmless in comparison with alcohol and opioids, they note, cautioning that, "however, the potential long-term hazardous effects of cannabis with regard to psychosis seem to have been overlooked, and there is a need to warn the public of these dangers, as well as to establish treatment to help young frequent cannabis users. Thanks! Doctor Janice

Thanks doc. I'll keep you in mind when I'm taking my next toke.

(Actually - i took a break over the summer and haven't puffed since June).

[Reaver]

...skunk bud, indica.....Skunk, bud, indica...Sativa, my reefer, la arriba

name that song...

[carcanaques]

I love pot. Makes me horny and sexy and that's why I wouldn't dream of getting high to trade. The best smoke I ever found was in Amsterdam. A small cafe with opiated moroccan hashish. Sticky and rolled in small pellets like peas. I bought a bag of it and stayed in my hotel for a week with a beautiful woman and room service.

[OAC]

	Quote:	carcanaques
	I love pot. Makes me horny and sexy and that's why I wouldn't dream of getting high to trade. The best smoke I ever found was in Amsterdam. A small cafe with opiated moroccan hashish. Sticky and rolled in small pellets like peas. I bought a bag of it and stayed in my hotel for a week with a beautiful woman and room service.

Don't get any more juicier than this, otherwise you will be banned.
And you have not made any relevant post about trading since you became a member either.

[MC]

Even if mentally it won't harm your performance it will eat into your profits.
That $hit is so expensive to me it's a waste of money. But if your doing well money wise and want to treat yourself and you like weed I say why not.