[VSA] Volume Spread Analysis Part II

[james_gsx]

I agree Mister Ed. Then the mods can go through and clean up the nonsense of whether or not VSA works (and all the other off topic posts that go with it). It would be a big task for the mods, but it would be well worth it in the long run.

[Sledge]

	Quote:	CandleWhisperer
	Wow thread moves fast, so I will begin at the beginning. GREAT POST. THIS WHAT WE NEED MORE OF AND WHAT THE DETRACTORS HAVE ASKED FOR. I suggest doing more of these but on Fridays. That way people have 48 to answer. Unlike the candle crew, VSAers have lives outside of TL!!!!!

Thanks CW, you seem to have firmly grasped the reasoning I made the initial post. I had no idea the controversy it would spark. I'll keep posting whatever charts I feel are VSA relevant, I'll continue to ask the questions or pose the challenges. It is how I learn, it is how many learn.
Sledge

[mister ed]

	Quote:	james_gsx
	I agree Mister Ed. Then the mods can go through and clean up the nonsense of whether or not VSA works (and all the other off topic posts that go with it). It would be a big task for the mods, but it would be well worth it in the long run.

D'oh! I hadn't thought of that ... LOL

Thanks for the feedback.

[Sledge]

	Quote:	james_gsx
	I have done my best to stay out of this argument Brownsfan is simply trying to agitate you guys and he brings up several good points. But if I must, here you go. click and.. click Would you like some more? I can probably even pull up one or two where I was wrong if you'd like. Different trading for different people. The CSA guys think VSA is too complicated so we don't use it. Nothing personal. No need to respond by bashing candlesticks.

Duly noted. Maybe we can amp up our calls in this way. I have no problem with trying to do this. Funny part is, I get in the trade, close out and fail to remember to post results!
Sledge

[Sledge]

	Quote:	mister ed
	Can I get some feedback please? So I propose splitting the thread, basically starting a new one, where a discussion can take place on the 'philosophy' of VSA, whether it is a crock or not ... whatever. This will leave this thread free for the practical applied side. Like I said, there is a role for the 'is it a crock' discussion, let it flourish I say, and it shall have its own forum for debate. Feedback please - good idea or no?

A Resounding YES!

[mister ed]

Thanks Sledge.

[BlowFish]

No need to split the thread anyone can start a VSA is cr*p thread and post to there hearts content. Sadly this thread does appear to need moderating as there appears to be an agenda to call by every now and then to simply knock VSA. More recently it has been to knock VSAers, I personally find that distasteful. I suggest ellite trader is a better venue for that sort of stuff. It will be a sad day when the forum needs a complain button but there are a few posts here I would use it on.

This thread is about VSA if that is of no interest why the hell post here? Of course if you have constructive criticism I'm sure that would be welcome but of course that would require some effort which is not evident in most of these missives.

[mister ed]

Thanks BlowFish. What you said about the thread needing moderating is right and is something I have heard a few times very recently. I have let the distractions go on too long, in the interests of being fair, but the persistence is tiresome and hence I think moving such posts to alternative venue where they can be debated ad nauseum will work.

[dandxg]

	Quote:	BlowFish
	No need to split the thread anyone can start a VSA is cr*p thread and post to there hearts content. Sadly this thread does appear to need moderating as there appears to be an agenda to call by every now and then to simply knock VSA. More recently it has been to knock VSAers, I personally find that distasteful. I suggest ellite trader is a better venue for that sort of stuff. It will be a sad day when the forum needs a complain button but there are a few posts here I would use it on. This thread is about VSA if that is of no interest why the hell post here? Of course if you have constructive criticism I'm sure that would be welcome but of course that would require some effort which is not evident in most of these missives.

I agree wholeheartedly. As I posted before can't we all get along and show each other some respect? We are all trading price and volume right? Some want that very specific and so VSA may or may not work. Some prefer candles and that's cool as I have used them before. Some like S/R and volume and that works too. I would like to see all outright negative nonsense omitted of this thread and every other thread, call it censorship I don't care. That goes for anyone posting nonsense, me included. That behavior is tolerated at elite trader all the time. That is why I spend less time there and more time here. I don't have a problem with hearing a different viewpoint, that's healthy when its done constructively.

So in response to the question should we split the thread my answer is no. If you think VSA is nonsense then stay on your own preferred thread.

[DbPhoenix]

	Quote:	dandxg
	So in response to the question should we split the thread my answer is no. If you think VSA is nonsense then stay on your own preferred thread.

I agree. The issue is not the "philosophy" of VSA, and that's not what draws the "off-topic" posts. What draws these posts is the application side. So splitting the thread won't accomplish the objective, as a thread devoted to philosophy might have maybe six posts in it (after 2500 posts, what more is there to say?).

I have no doubt that those who believe that they're posting real-time trades truly believe that that is what they are doing. However, it is not necessary for those who know that the trades are not in fact real-time to bring attention to the fact in the mistaken belief that everybody is too stupid to understand the difference.

Therefore, if someone who happens to disagree with what's being posted for one reason or another wants to contribute something, fine. But if someone is posting for no other reason than to create an uproar, a deletion or two and a PM from the moderator ought to be enough.