I like DB. He is a welcome addition to the forum as a whole. Truth is, PP mentioned him in this thread long before anybody else did in the other thread. However, the new thread seems to be getting off topic. So this is a bump to raise the original
VSA thread up to the top so actual
VSA teaching and learning can go on.
Also, If you have a problem with Joel, grow a pair and tell him. Don't use this thread to not so subtly mask your disdain or inability to grasp what he tried to impart.