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Re: Playing with the VMAR`s open research

Vague ideas... no problem with that... all great inventions where originally vague ideas

let me see Pyenner what your first vague idea its all about... you have a very strong midline (magenta line ) it is a line in the sand... we could say that she represents some kind of center of all action and from that line we could expect centrifugal or centripetal action...

In this idea you are presenting a centripetal action (refreshing) to the magenta line.. and you are using the smaller vmas to time entries with some laddering... would this be the idea ? cheers Walter.

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Walter and PYenner...Great posts...very interesting and helpful information. Thanks for sharing this. Walter please keep the videos coming, your explainations help clear up many things. Somehow hearing it makes it much clearer for me than reading it (at least for me!). I wonder if there is a way to post the latest revisions of the fantail_vma for mt4 with a rev. number and some sort of description. I would like to begin testing with a demo account but am a little confused as to which version to try.

...one last thing...PYenner...would you mind giving us a phonetical pronunciation of your screen name. Is it "pie"-ner or "P" - Yenner... no biggie...just curious. Thanks to both of you for all your hard work on this project...Armand

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Re: Playing with the VMAR`s open research

The "horizontal effect" is the true backbone of the chimps epiphany...

without horizontal efect (HE) we are just presenting another regular TA method... but with the HE we are talking about something diferent, something with edge, something that opens to new research dimensions...

The HE tells us a lot of things... it tells us the shift of condition between cycle and trending..

Now when the HE finishes and the line starts to travel in one particular direction it is telling us that we may have some posible timing readings with this feature... I call that "Laddering"... you are having a ladder literally and its telling you, we may travel in that direction...

let me explain a little on next post with a video... cheers Walter.

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Walter and PYenner...Great posts...very interesting and helpful information. Thanks for sharing this. Walter please keep the videos coming, your explainations help clear up many things. Somehow hearing it makes it much clearer for me than reading it (at least for me!). I wonder if there is a way to post the latest revisions of the fantail_vma for mt4 with a rev. number and some sort of description. I would like to begin testing with a demo account but am a little confused as to which version to try.

...one last thing...PYenner...would you mind giving us a phonetical pronunciation of your screen name. Is it "pie"-ner or "P" - Yenner... no biggie...just curious. Thanks to both of you for all your hard work on this project...Armand
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I mostly trade GBPJPY, Pound Yen to me, so the tag was Pee Yen er.
The real name is Bruce but I'm not Scottish either...
Not a biggie.

Yes, I risk confusing people with the vagueness of thoughts that are still forming and I probably should do a video for some of the stuff, but I'm no rock star or politician argh.

I'm kind of in limbo over which step to take next because the view ahead keeps shifting, and I'm also quite slow at programming.

Stay tuned, I hope I will get more focus.

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This is a video about the first perspective I have on the "Laddering"... the take off after an HE... it tells me a lot... al vague ideas here jejejej... cheers Walter.
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let me see Pyenner what your first vague idea its all about... you have a very strong midline (magenta line ) it is a line in the sand... we could say that she represents some kind of center of all action and from that line we could expect centrifugal or centripetal action...

Think of that 1 min chart as being zoomed way out.
Those are 5 min ladders you are looking at, the last one has an icon look.
This is about trading the spaces between 5min ladders. Joining the dots between the bigger trades, scalping the inward swings.

Each chart timeframe has its own progressively larger "sawtooth" and time frame that its ADX is using, the longest one there is 16 min and its sawtooth covers most of the price range of that chart. When the 16Min line is a strong flat it is telling you that it is near the centre of its current sawtooth range.

Now that range is dynamic and it will usually be slowly shrinking and as it shrinks it becomes more sensitive to recent price movements. The ADX gets a little more restless as time goes on and nothing much happens, it wants more and more to start going places. An ADX line will only stay rock steady if it gets a continuing sawtooth or wave to keep its range adjusted to that size of sawtooth. Thats a side issue but I see it happening in that chart as time passes, so I mentioned it.

If the price gets towards the top or bottom of the 16 min sawtooth levels it will start the 16 Min line turning towards an outward break. But near the start of that chart was the weekend step which has tended to fix the 16 Min flat line near the middle of the chart. Provided the price swings within that range, and about the 16 min line, it will tend to be stable and you can buy the dip back up towards magenta 16 min line and sell the peak back down towards magenta.
It is the centre of a swing range so long as there is no outward break and with a "growing restless" factor over time.

As time passes, the 16 min line gets restless and becomes more mobile, starts to follow the final upward trend.

Now those smaller trades have the 16 min line as their price target but as you see, most times it takes a couple of attempts to get there and sometimes it shoots straight past the price, but it is handy to have a swing centre and a swing range for scalping inwards towards the centre.

One way to fill in the time waiting for a 5 min icon move to come up.

So I see some use for unusually slow VMA lines as well as a need for some faster than 1 min lines. Maybe the middle parts of a vma line fantail have other uses as well.

Maybe that got closer to the ballpark.

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I mostly trade GBPJPY, Pound Yen to me, so the tag was Pee Yen er.
The real name is Bruce but I'm not Scottish either...
Not a biggie.

Yes, I risk confusing people with the vagueness of thoughts that are still forming and I probably should do a video for some of the stuff, but I'm no rock star or politician argh.

I'm kind of in limbo over which step to take next because the view ahead keeps shifting, and I'm also quite slow at programming.

Stay tuned, I hope I will get more focus.
PYenner...Pound/Yen - "er" - "pee-yen-er" makes perfect sense...thanks for the explaination. I look forward to a video. I think your focus is in great shape. So far, it has really propelled things forward. Thanks for all your hard work...Armand


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Walter...the laddering video is awesome. Looks like great potential there. Thanks for including the settings...I look forward to testing it out. I appreciate all your hard work and your willingness to share it...Armand

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Re: Playing with the VMAR`s open research

Magenta 16 min provides a general target exit price when scalping back in towards the 16 min line. Swing stuff, only works while there is a swing.

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Re: Playing with the VMAR`s open research

Thank you Walter and PYenner for your in depth analyses of the VMAR.

PYenner.... not a politician!!! Your "grand vision" is only come from a Master Politician.
I wish that our leader has your brain.


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